>> host: you said when you landed in burma, and traveled around, it was the only time the reporters were actually looking outside the window, not because it was unique and interesting, which it probably was, but because there was no blackberry service. >> guest: indeed. we're still addicted to our black berries on this tripes, and you sometimes miss liking around you. you don't have time because you're filing, you're filing your story, you're checking with you've editors, what they need. for some people, checking back home with their family, is a everything okay? i'll be home or not. for my birthday. my daughter's birthday, et cetera. so, you tend to be hunched down on your laptop or looking at your black blackberry, but in burma, internet was very limited. this is a country that -- it's not north korea but it's quite closed and it has been for the last few decades.